Topic: Basic electronics book recommendations...

Looking for a good, practical and satisfactory read... doesn't necessarily have to be "for dummies"....

Something that can get me started with the subject and (eventually) help with spotting faults and repairing minor ones on my synths...

Are there any text books which cover aspects of the electronics more relevant to synth pcbs and audio related circuitry in general? Or a more generic book would do?

Advice would be much appreciated! smile

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http://www.amazon.com/Art-Electronics-P … bb_product

Monkey see, monkey do.

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hey tx biotek. I've seen that one on Amazon as well... cool cover wink It seems to be quite comprehensive...

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it's not the cover which counts here. other good resources are the synth-diy mailing list and http://electronotes.netfirms.com/

Monkey see, monkey do.

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biotek wrote:

it's not the cover which counts here.

right. thanks for the advice, but please, don't assume I'm that dumb.

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Seems like an interesting read. 

Biotek, have you read this one? or just recommending it due to word of mouth etc?

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i've read the art of electronics a little and it seems like a good book to start with. i've picked up electronics on my own by experimenting and university courses which focus on telecommunications (rf electronics) so i can't recommend good books from my own experience directly.

Monkey see, monkey do.

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ordered it , got stuff to keep me reading for a while... and hopefully some hands on experimentation will follow. Call the firemen big_smile

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There's one called Electronic Projects for Musicians. A friend of mine has it. I've never read it, but I guess it's more focused on guitar pedals.

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i have the Electronic Projects for Musicians book. It's alright, definitely geared around building pedals but it has some other projects. kind of out-dated though in some ways, especially when you are looking for IC's.

worship the potentiometer.

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but the advantage of that book is that it is written towards musicians. i've found a lot of electronics books focus too much on all the theory parts.. as someone who sucks insanely at anything to do with maths and physics, i gave up on most of them.. sometimes all you want is some practical stuff..

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I advise every book written by Forrest Mims III. This man is the one if you need to start with electronics (in general)
and you don't have a single clue.
All of the books I have from him are just Xeroxed copies of his handwriting (written like every respectable engineer
would do, in upper case block style!) with lots of schematics, perfect tutorial on how to read them, what every single
component does etc etc etc.
Albeit I have studied electronics at the technical high school I was in, I still refer to those books whenever I have a
circuit to solve and I need a practical and quick way to do it... Possibly Mr. Mims has already done it before me big_smile

By the way, this man wrote as well the operator manual for the Altair 8800... big_smile

13 (edited by cimabot 2009-01-30 09:22:41)

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alex_d_steak wrote:

By the way, this man wrote as well the operator manual for the Altair 8800... big_smile

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3218/mitsaltair8800fullview1ju3.jpg

schweet...

Well Mr. Mims has got a website! Might consider the Getting Started In Electronics book if I find The Art Of Electronics too advanced for me...which will probably be the case big_smile

edit: http://www.forrestmims.com/

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if your ultimate goal is to do minor repair/maintenance on your synths then you're going to need to learn to solder.  if you're serious invest in some tools: soldering iron, desoldering pump, multimeter, etc.

practice soldering and desoldering.  good starting points are practicing on broken electronics (avoid TVs), circuit bending cheap battery operated stuff, or getting a small electronics kit perhaps something from buildyourownclone.com that has musical value.

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Hey Forax thanks for the advice, yes I was going to ask sooner or later about suitable hands-on small projects.... I am getting a Weller soldering iron from work but will have to buy the other tools...I do have a multimeter but it's extremely limited.

liking the idea of trying out one of the buildyourownclone.com kits....

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I ran across this recently:

http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_ … 2db60c02ba

If you haven't got any tools, this doesn't sound all that bad. Or you can use the kit as a source of inspiration... Starting with crappy tools can be pretty frustrating.

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nice kit maurits, not in stock at the mo but might consider it if it turns out to be cheaper than getting the same stuff from a store...not sure with the shipping from the US though.

Also came across this book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-Elect … D3EK9V0ES9

Seems ok in its category...

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I have the Electronic Projects for Musicians and I agree, its hard to get some of the parts... for a newer book with easy to find parts and some fun projects try Handmade Electronic Music by Nicolas Collins  http://www.amazon.com/Handmade-Electron … 0415975921 
(biotek and i saw him do a demo/book release in chicago smile

there is another edition coming out soon.

I'm pretty fond of the  ' Evil Genius ' series.  All of their books have thorough project descriptions and parts listings.  Here's a link to one of their books , but you can easily get drawn into a whole wormhole of others on amazon.  They have a nice sense of humor as well!  Their spy book is loads of fun wink
http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Circui … pd_sim_b_4


I HIGHLY recommend anything Forrest Mims (also mentioned!) 

Practical Electronics for Inventors  is quite a resource, better to use as reference material than a getting started on projects type book.   http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Electro … 0071452818

For kits, this website - solarbotics - offers a lot of great little build-yourself robots and things to get you started
http://www.solarbotics.com/

Finally, I took a class in basic analog circuits and this is our syllabus.  there are links to a LOT of great resources just on that.  Starting at the very basics, like soldering and using a multimeter....  if you want to do anything electronics... you must get very friendly with your multimeter, its essential!  and better yet a 'scope  (looks cooler anyway) !  you need to use it to identify where/what the problems are (in a faulty synth or any other circuit) before you start to fix them.  there are some classes in there that deal with audio ....

http://web.mac.com/er0sentha1/NYUBAC/Syllabus.html

have fun !

edit :  just thought of one other tip...  if you want to be confident you're really getting it - pick an online kit and buy two of them.  the first one, put together on their given printed circuit board.  when that works, throw away the PCB on the second kit and just put it together on a breadboard.  it helps.

everything but the kitchen synchotron

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buildyourownclone kits are awesome! we've built a couple of pedals through them and found it was a great way to both learn how to solder and learn how to read schematics hands on. they even include a "confidence boost" kit if it is your first project so you can test learning to solder before touching your project.

also invest in a good multimeter. i went cheap and learned the hard way by having to buy a nicer one soon after.

cool links subk!

worship the potentiometer.

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subk has an excellent point. Key tool is actually a breadboard, without it things are extremely frustrating. You can still screw up by blowing devices, but at least it doesn't take soldering to change anything in your circuit.

If you want a bit more of an academic approach to things, I can highy recommend Tietze/Schenk, which is a German book but also seems to exist in an English translation. In general I think it helps not to shy away from at least some of the theory, it really helps in developing intuition for circuits.

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there is a big difference in just knowing enough to repair, and actually to build kits. and breadboarding is something else alltogether. there's a lot of stuff you don't need to know if you just want to repair. you need to know what each part does, how to use a multimeter, and most of all how to solder well.

its my experience that most (over 90 percent) of synth problems are not failing parts, but failing contacts and solder joints due to age and wear. so i'd concentrate on methods of finding those (which also involves reading schematics, and diagnosing what part of the synth is faulty and where to indentify it on the board). a lot of people, including techs, have a tendency to look for all kinds of failing parts, when in reality its just the solder joint. i've fixed stuff with the craziest problems by just resoldering the whole board..and a lot more than once too..

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yes oxidation on contacts, dried solder joints and cheap electrolytic capacitors (exatcly what you find in consumer electronics) are the usual culprits. integrated circuits are sensitive to static discharges too, although nowadays there are measures to protect against that. not sure how it was back in the seventies/eighties.

Monkey see, monkey do.

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so much precious advice, thanks!! will be on it now...

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youtube also has lots of resources, for example lectures on mitopencourseware:

MIT 6.002 Circuits and Electronics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfQxyVuLeCs

Monkey see, monkey do.

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Inside information: The TV is still operating big_smile