Topic: Midi madness... a new kind of instrument

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Re: Midi madness... a new kind of instrument

Totally impressed. Make it bluetooth and I will give you money - Maiovvi must remain wireless wink

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Wireless means having more crap sitting on your wrist or hand (like a LiPo battery), more latency and more chances of missed notes due to radio interference. I wanted this as sleek and comfortable as possible.

That said, Prototype 3 may be wireless. I'll see after I suss it out after touring with this.

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cool! wonder how the show will look like with this

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Brilliant!

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Nice Mr. Fingers vibe you got going there.

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glovely stuff

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Eat your heart out Nintendo Power Glove!

Re: Midi madness... a new kind of instrument

sneakthief wrote:

Wireless means having more crap sitting on your wrist or hand (like a LiPo battery), more latency and more chances of missed notes due to radio interference. I wanted this as sleek and comfortable as possible.

That said, Prototype 3 may be wireless. I'll see after I suss it out after touring with this.

I'm really curious about the results. Next time we hang out I would like to talk about this in depth. smile

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Speaking of the Power Glove, the flex sensor I use is the same as the one that Nintendo used (made by Spectra Symbol).

Anton: Yeah, I'll let you know how it works out! Come over to the studio anytime.

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So here's a first test of my visuals setup.

I whipped up something quick in Java using Processing.org. A pico-laser projector is mounted a couple of feet in front of me.

This first set of image fragments is subtle... still experimenting with images and learning how to play this crazy instrument:

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Excellent!

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how do you stay so thin? expose this secret! wink

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Wasn't there something like that already by Doepfer somewhere in the nineties? Just remember seeing a 2nd hand auction of it.

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@score100: lots of people have done midi gloves, I'm definitely not the first. However, every one I've seen is bulky and horrible to wear - or a musical nightmare. The one you're referring to is the Doepfer Mogli interface that lets you use a Nintendo Power Glove to generate midi, which is not my idea of comfort.

Instead I wanted something that's almost as light and flexible as my skin.

What's new here is that I'm slowly incorporating a framework for interpreting gestures in a musical, performance-oriented way.

Most instruments are about "playing the right notes". In this case, my gestures also control the musical relationships between the notes that I can choose, and eventually will be able to generate controlled melodies and harmonies so I can play, for example, bass and lead at the same time - but each synth will be receiving different notes depending on how I move, what scale I selected, etc.

The visual feedback is also somewhat new. It's a weird attempt at creating a visual metaphor in place of what you would normally see & experience when watching someone perform with a traditional instrument.

That said, I'm indifferent about people looking at me when I perform. I guess I thought it would be trippy to have some kind synesthesia-inducing presentation. Some people are visual, some aren't. For those that are, it's something to see during the parts of my set when I use it.

@Anton: high metabolism? I dunno...

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Well that's perfectly fine, I think it's great if you have both - the musical and the visual. Although I'd say the musical stays primary in a club situation, but I guess thats the visitors choice then.
I personally find a lot of electronical dance music live-acts not very exciting to watch,
since it's often hard to see any connection between the gear and the sound, unless you are a producer and happen to know the instrument. So there could be something more interesting to watch in a electronic music live-act then just someone twisting knobs, whatever it is that he/she's creating with it - visuals or sounds.

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Testing switchable note "spreads", accelerometer-controlled filters and gestures which "throw" octaves up and down:

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Maiovvi wrote:

how do you stay so thin? expose this secret! wink

If I would ever think of starting such a project, there would be no time for eating

Btw: Very cool stuff, keep us posted about the progress!

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Violets are blue,
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Re: Midi madness... a new kind of instrument

OK, finally got to test this out for real.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp2chdRcYzA[/youtube]

I was way outside of my comfort zone and completely overwhelmed by all the new things I had to keep track of and the musical decisions I needed to make.

As such, I need to concentrate more on MEANINGFUL melodic improvisation as well as proper musical passages that I can easily recall... you know, like a traditional instrument wink

Technically everything went OK. Looking forward to implementing my body-tracking system so the images stay on me as I move and I'll be able to loosen up more.

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