Re: What new booty have you acquired?
TONY COPS wrote:HOBYA wrote:im sure i read somewhere this mod is not possible,
but would be v good!
the bestTB or not TB
1,677 2009-10-14 07:13:38
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I forgot about you Euros. Ebay is flooded right now with them from $1100-$1500 US right now but you guys have all that tax and then shipping hassles.
I got mine for $1100 US shipped. Which is basically 1100 Canadian right now. Which is less than half of what one would have been last year.
It has some cosmetic issues on the case but has been completely serviced and restored. All knobs, switches and jacks cleaned or replaced, battery casing replaced. The only thing it replaced internally was a ribbon cable, he assured me everything else was original. All the rust was filed off the case and had an anti-rusting agent applied to it and nowhere at any point did it rust all the way through.
Very excited. It's not the best looking one but functionally it is apparently flawless. The seller is a techy guy backing it up with a 100% guarantee on all functions. Whcih put me over the top. And as my uncle once said to me "you don't f**k the face."
sounds like a deal there p. trying to save up for one at the moment as well and would be sweet if i can find one like that for that price!
1,678 2009-10-14 14:56:37
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mekonin wrote:TONY COPS wrote:I think I read that somewhere too, but anything's possible if you really want it, lol.
I would be more than happy if I could just select the patterns via MIDI...
Anything is possible, but can I afford it?
I have a pattern-change/transpose-modification on my 303, also want the same on the 808 so maybe can do the rest too..
could you give me few more details on how you modified it? i presume you're not using fabric din sync for that
don't know how different the seq design is between 303 and 808, maybe the same principle could be used on 808 too?
1,679 2009-10-14 22:09:23
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Freek wrote:mekonin wrote:I would be more than happy if I could just select the patterns via MIDI...
Anything is possible, but can I afford it?
I have a pattern-change/transpose-modification on my 303, also want the same on the 808 so maybe can do the rest too..
could you give me few more details on how you modified it? i presume you're not using fabric din sync for that
don't know how different the seq design is between 303 and 808, maybe the same principle could be used on 808 too?
I dont do modifications myself but my synthdoctor does all the technical stuff, I only say what I want 
The 303 has Midi-sync and Din-sync on the same and original Din-input, so you dont see any modifications or drill-holes. When using Midi-sync (no switch, the 303 just pics up the right signal) the 303 can also recieve pattern-changes and transpose-changes. It is set to a Midi-channel in which you can put notes on different keys to control the 303's sequencer/patterns.
Ive asked and the doctor thinks the pattern-changes mod on 808 is also possible. He told me that he was thinking about the copy/paste/memory/delete mod but that is a lot harder to develop, so not sure yet if he can fix it...
1,680 2009-10-15 01:07:49
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that seems like a very elegant solution. please let me know if you mod your 808. personally, i don't think there is need for copy/paste, it's not that hard to program. it would be cool to have every instrument on different midi notes, but that would exclude the seq from it's use which, in rude66's words, makes up 50% of the 808's sound.
1,681 2009-10-15 08:02:04
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The 303 mod you describe sounds like any acidheads dream. Is this a mod that you tech inventet or is it is for sale somepwere on the interweps?
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1,682 2009-10-15 10:43:38
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it would be cool to have every instrument on different midi notes, but that would exclude the seq from it's use which, in rude66's words, makes up 50% of the 808's sound.
How does the 808's sequencer make up 50% of the 808's sound?
1,683 2009-10-15 12:38:01
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my new gear for last mothns : Roland mks7(350
1,684 2009-10-15 12:52:05
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mekonin wrote:it would be cool to have every instrument on different midi notes, but that would exclude the seq from it's use which, in rude66's words, makes up 50% of the 808's sound.
How does the 808's sequencer make up 50% of the 808's sound?
Because there are no midi on/off notes but a voltage who triggers the sounds. Pure analog sequencing. Or am I wrong?
1,685 2009-10-15 12:56:32
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Nobody will hear the difference
and its not pure analog sequencing its computer controlled 
1,686 2009-10-15 13:08:30
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Rude mentioned it in the Acidlab Miami topic, he talked about 808 having internal compression if i remember correctly
1,687 2009-10-15 13:41:38
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that seems like a very elegant solution. please let me know if you mod your 808. personally, i don't think there is need for copy/paste, it's not that hard to program. it would be cool to have every instrument on different midi notes, but that would exclude the seq from it's use which, in rude66's words, makes up 50% of the 808's sound.
copy paste can be very handy.. it can be a lot of work if you want to make a bunch of variations on one pattern copying a few patterns with 12 sounds in first part and second part ..
The 303 mod you describe sounds like any acidheads dream. Is this a mod that you tech inventet or is it is for sale somepwere on the interweps?
sorry, that mod was custom-made for me... Dunno where you live but my synthdoctor is located in the south of Holland..
Nobody will hear the difference
and its not pure analog sequencing its computer controlled
well, you def hear difference in timing when you compare them (internal vs midi-notes), the internal sequencer has a slower timing..
I will keep you guys posted about future mods on the 808..
1,688 2009-10-15 13:55:45
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Pendelum arived:
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1,689 2009-10-15 15:30:28
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Pendelum arived:
great
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1,690 2009-10-15 15:33:46
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well, you def hear difference in timing when you compare them (internal vs midi-notes), the internal sequencer has a slower timing..
If I posted up ten clips of my 808, five of them played with its internal sequencer and five of them played via an external midi sequencer, you would not be able to correctly identify which was which for all of them. (no point posting up just two clips as there's a 50/50 chance of guessing correctly)
1,691 2009-10-15 16:50:57
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Freek wrote:well, you def hear difference in timing when you compare them (internal vs midi-notes), the internal sequencer has a slower timing..
If I posted up ten clips of my 808, five of them played with its internal sequencer and five of them played via an external midi sequencer, you would not be able to correctly identify which was which for all of them. (no point posting up just two clips as there's a 50/50 chance of guessing correctly)
I understand, but if I use both machines at the same time (one with and one without midi) I def hear difference in timing...
1,692 2009-10-15 18:38:25
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Got my SH-101 in the mail today. Just unwrapped it before I came to work.
Still wondering a bit if I made a good trade (My Nord G1 for his SH-101+200USD) but the way 101s have shot up in price lately I think it's good and I told myself I was going to restrict my soft synths for now to Oasys PCI and Ableton Live Suite 8.
Looks marvelous. Like my 202 but with so much more synth possibilities.
1,693 2009-10-15 20:13:39
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Freek wrote:well, you def hear difference in timing when you compare them (internal vs midi-notes), the internal sequencer has a slower timing..
If I posted up ten clips of my 808, five of them played with its internal sequencer and five of them played via an external midi sequencer, you would not be able to correctly identify which was which for all of them. (no point posting up just two clips as there's a 50/50 chance of guessing correctly)
Are you sure? There seems to be a bit of a myth surrounding the tightness of the 808's internal sequencer. Maybe a little test is in order....
1,694 2009-10-16 06:37:56
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1,695 2009-10-16 07:27:28 (edited by plikestechno 2009-10-16 07:35:12)
Re: What new booty have you acquired?
I couldn't turn down a perfect conditioned MC-202 for $350 USD/Canadian today. I missed it and am happy I'll have one once again. Will make a nice partner to my 101. Just fired the 101 up for the first time. Everything's perfect and lots of fun.
1,696 2009-10-16 09:01:51
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skkatter wrote:Freek wrote:well, you def hear difference in timing when you compare them (internal vs midi-notes), the internal sequencer has a slower timing..
If I posted up ten clips of my 808, five of them played with its internal sequencer and five of them played via an external midi sequencer, you would not be able to correctly identify which was which for all of them. (no point posting up just two clips as there's a 50/50 chance of guessing correctly)
Are you sure? There seems to be a bit of a myth surrounding the tightness of the 808's internal sequencer. Maybe a little test is in order....
this has been tested and documented to death. search the web, people have been writing about this for 15 years. i'm starting to think enough is enough..
if any of you guys want to believe that vst's are as good as an analogue synth, samples are just like the real thing, midi timing vs internal timing in analogue drum machines doesn't matter, a behringer or other cheap mixer is just as good as an SSL or Neve, mp3's are just as good as vinyl, etc etc etc, just go ahead. if people who have worked with this stuff for years and years make a certain observation, no one forces you to believe them..
1,697 2009-10-16 15:09:15
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Stuff like clock tightness/ feel seems to be closer to pure voodoo than a a kind of science you can study. Here MIDI is talked about like all MIDI is basically equivalent. Of course it should be if people would just stick to the simple standard, but they don't. The standard is quite clear about clock messages but manufacturers cut corners and MIDI is often handled by a small co-processor in hardware. You can't simply assume hardware will always be tight just because there is no bloated OS to get in the way and just because a given device drifts a bit doesn't need to mean it doesn't sound good; the Atari (still my benchmark for tight MIDI) can sound a bit boring for some types of patterns.
1,698 2009-10-16 17:29:02
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I definetly hear a big difference in the internal sequencer timing of the 808. That is because the tempo pot is so dirty/scratchy that the timing is all across the scale.
So what if lots of techno heads on the internets think they can hear 'the funk'. It's a product of so many variables that the premise of the whole discussion is totally flawed to begin with.
1,699 2009-10-16 18:13:54
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this has been tested and documented to death. search the web, people have been writing about this for 15 years. i'm starting to think enough is enough..
if any of you guys want to believe that vst's are as good as an analogue synth, samples are just like the real thing, midi timing vs internal timing in analogue drum machines doesn't matter, a behringer or other cheap mixer is just as good as an SSL or Neve, mp3's are just as good as vinyl, etc etc etc, just go ahead. if people who have worked with this stuff for years and years make a certain observation, no one forces you to believe them..
mp3 aren't as good as vinyl, mp3 are better than vinyl - no quality changes througout the track, no quality loss with each play, no time limitation, can carry higher frequencies, more handy, cheaper.
1,700 2009-10-16 18:24:27
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dont forget environmental