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2009, district line.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3377/3286547181_1e09eda684.jpg

hope that's contemporary enough for you.

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black shape wrote:

graffitti is graffitti, not art. and btw thats not very contemporary either

sorry dude, but thats simply not true.

if this:
http://www.proa.org/exhibiciones/pasadas/merz/salas/merz_senza_titolo_2.jpg
is considered contemporary art

how can you not consider this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2458132751_e83389fb6e.jpg
contemporary art!

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http://formatmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/dezio_cover.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3597/3473023412_24f6822934.jpg
http://www.graffiti.org/index/glosrd2009.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3508/3754770864_fca81fd290.jpg
http://www.keusta.net/blog/images/graffiti/ivry/skull_playing_big.jpg

all contemporary, all art.

204 (edited by zip 2010-01-22 20:46:31)

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black shape wrote:

graffitti is graffitti, not art. and btw thats not very contemporary either

yes, and photography is photography, not art

and according to wikipedia, cooking is art, and my car mechanic an artist when he works on my car:

"Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions."

205 (edited by casionova 2010-01-22 20:51:06)

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http://streetfiles.org/img/user/4/L/Zw8RMGEYJNNKHexehZYK1205353177.jpg

http://www.canned-goods.co.uk/graffiti-pictures/images/mos-london-09-166.jpg

http://www.rockingthecity.com/cazbee6.jpg

http://www.push1.com/_tools/modules/04_posts/img_orig/1200396940GDTXXIAK-760MR54F1234295724-67i2xko.jpg

the revolution that champagne society can't deal with or buy into.

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zip wrote:
black shape wrote:

graffitti is graffitti, not art. and btw thats not very contemporary either

yes, and photography is photography, not art

and according to wikipedia, cooking is art, and my car mechanic an artist when he works on my car:

"Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions."

what he said. lol

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by that definition, assembling burgers at McDonalds is art too.

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ive worked in mcdonalds... and it is.

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I shall remember that next time I have a drunken meal in the middle of the night at McD:s smile

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blood sweat and tears goes into that burger... remember that

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I can think of worse body fluids in my burger lol

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http://wilybadger.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/master-spooge-2.jpg

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that image above is super minging!

contemporary art is anything that you've put thought and feeling into producing, and for the viewer its anything that evokes a reaction, making you feel or think something you weren't feeling before you saw it.

there is no one 'real' art; graffiti, oil paint, live art, photos or other, they are all about expression in one form or another. as a viewer we can take it or leave it, love it or hate it.

that image above really is giving me the boke!

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i guess whole topic is regarding the conservative way of contemporary art... so it can sometimes seem at odds with a public that does not feel that art and its institutions share its values.

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http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/7/72/Bad_art.jpg

Monkey see, monkey do.

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the context of graffitti is totally different to art, so graffitti is not art it is graffitti.
granted it shares similarities with past modes of art, but its like that guy who spent 12 years doing a perfect pencil drawing of marilyn monroe, despite the painstaking manipulation of a medium and an impressive image at the end, it still is not art, because it is not made in that context. sorry guys tongue

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what's the different context of 'graffiti' to 'contemporary art' then?

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related to graffiti = murals!!!!!!

http://z.about.com/d/gomexico/1/0/r/5/-/-/murals_palacio_nacional.jpg
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/12/24/arts/diegoslide2.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/68/220425370_e1ba5d1543.jpg
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2007/12/11/va1237281848886/Belfast-mural-Reuters-5794207.jpg
http://www.gransha-taxi.co.uk/images/murals/bobby%20sands%20with%20jo.jpg
http://www.gransha-taxi.co.uk/images/murals/Shankill%201.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/goireland/1/0/R/F/-/-/belfast_murals_george_best.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/goireland/1/0/T/F/-/-/belfast_murals_jimmy_johnstone.jpg
http://unurth.com/media/51615/ovbal-y-sego_Mexico-city_1.jpg

cuties don't exert

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fav graf artist = kid acne

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/images/2005/11/08/pic2_dulo_470_470x352.jpg
http://www.archipelago-art.co.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/KidAcne_web.jpg.w300h420.jpg

cuties don't exert

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its like if someone showed up to your gig with a bunch of cds and you laughed and said "you're not a DJ, you prick".  same idea

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meschi wrote:

blood sweat and tears goes into that burger... remember that

I'd rather pay 99p for Meschi's cheeseburger than Tracey Emin's bed or a pickled shark. You should send it off to Saatchi mate you'll prob get a couple of million easy.

222 (edited by meschi 2010-01-23 03:08:01)

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black shape wrote:

the context of graffitti is totally different to art, so graffitti is not art it is graffitti.
granted it shares similarities with past modes of art, but its like that guy who spent 12 years doing a perfect pencil drawing of marilyn monroe, despite the painstaking manipulation of a medium and an impressive image at the end, it still is not art, because it is not made in that context. sorry guys tongue

okay dude. I am far from an expert on art, so please excuse my naivety, but can you explain what you have just said above in easy to understand terms. imagine "art explained for idiots" and you'll get what Im after.

As I'm finding it very hard to understand how anyone can say that graffiti is not art.

again man, I'm not having a go and I'm not trying to incite silly forum board arguments as I can't be arsed with that shit, but what you said above doesn't make any sense to me, so if you can explain it a little better, that would be much appreciated.

edit: and I wouldve said that drawing a picture of marilyn monroe (no matter how long it took) would be considered art. why would you not see this as art yourself?

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@blackshape -

I'm with the man above - really I can accept that you like the stuff you like even if I don't get it (whatever turns you on) but find the rejection of what I consider to be art and what is also the most popular 'real' art movement in the past 30 years (I'd say its succeeded in reaching the youth a bit more than art classes ever did) a little difficult to understand. speaking as someone who's risked quite a lot for the artform that I'm into I'd appreciate a clear explanation of what you mean, and absolutely no offence taken if you disagree with me. That's part of what forums are for - a free exchange of honest opinions.

224 (edited by meschi 2010-01-23 03:15:40)

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Im also going to expnd on the earlier quote made (granted this is pulled from wikipedia, but I have found the same definition at a few sources

Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions. It encompasses a diverse range of human activities, creations, and modes of expression, including music, literature, film, sculpture, and paintings.

now if we say that the context of music is completely different to art, then this would sort of contradict this definition. So maybe what Im not understanding is your definition of art, or perhaps what context you hold it in.

If you believe the term 'art' isn't all encompassing, then I can understand why you would say that graffiti would not be included, as your definition of art would only hold certain mediums and formats that you believe to be art. Then that would come down to an opinion of a person, which is fair enough, although given the wider definition of art, you would have to admit that graffiti is an artform... no?

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blackshape is confusing art with craft