This town Stinks (Page 3 of 5)

I'm also no fan of that Twizted cafe... too much boring dj-contests with shitty club music (read: cheap dj's)

that place sucks indeed.

there are enough people in amsterdam that like this stuff that we do, i'm very convinced of that. the trick is to do something regular, so you can build up an audience and a name.
or if you do single parties, pack it with so many names no one can escape it. see out boem tsjak parties from the past or the creme 10 year globaldarkness thing on the boat next month..

I'll do my best here downsouth, there's this place called "de nor" it has a super soundsystem
i only hope the soundsystem is prepared for our music
If 200 people show up , i think i will be save

Fingers crossed

I think we have a Buitenveldert retroreflect meeting soon. Maybe you should join in so we can talk about what's next.

I wonder how Marco feels about his topic being hijacked by Amsterdam hipsters...
@Marco: don't hang yourself man!

word. saturday night round my mate jimmy's house. you can skin up, chop up get tanked up all at the same time and no hassle. its byob and bring your own music.

on the going out front though we've been getting spoilt lately in my part of london (hackney).
in the last 12 months we've had smackos, orgue electronique, loud-e, david vunk, intergalactic gary, roberto auser, ian martin all playing here plus that whole squat thing is still as strong and smelly as ever here

good point

i talk about the past way to much, could be because i'm depressed
if you make enough progress in life you don't have to

i don't think it has anything to do with depression, or being old or narrowminded when you say some things used to be better in the past. if youre a vinyl junkie, it definitely used to better in the days when you could buy records on every street corner and the cities and towns were full of shops.  just like here in amsterdam, you can say things used to be a lot better on the partyfront because there were more and interesting parties then these days. its an objective observation. in a lot of ways today is better than the past, but in some ways it isn't.

well, i mean it was better because there were a lot more shops to go to. of course it was also the shop as a meeting point that was nice, but there were a lot of places to go to, here in amsterdam there were dozens.. but most are gone now, only 1 or 2 left that have a decent vinyl selection. one thing i don't like about these specialist storews is that they only sell one kind of music..
and yes, the net is cool, but dont forget that records are a lot more expensive now because of all the shipping costs. you in germany are lucky with places like Decks that charge only a small amount for german shipping..
and nice as it is to be able to find rare stuff, it has also driven the prices up, and a lot of the stores that are left now use ebay or even worse gemm or popsikes as  a price guide.. i remember on the old cbs forum there were some nice examples of this.

as for parties, it's well past hundreds, probably over 1000 in bands alone. but thats not what i was talking about, its also the locations. here, there are almost no cool places left because of stricter regulations, a booming housing market that got rid of almost all squat places and turned them into appartment buildings, and super high prices in the center that forces clubs to play commercial crap so the place is filled up every night...

you are 100% right. and it is up to you/us to try to create something new. but thats what i meant, it's not just complaining.. it's a fact, an observation. do with it whatever you want.

and to make things a bit more relative, i knew guys older than me that did the same thing years ago.. but they saw all the great punk bands. and i'm sure before that, there were the people that saw the great 60's bands play in small clubs. so maybe its all a big slide downhill..

but actually i also feel sorry for some of the kids today.. i mean, i'm very glad that i lived through all that and went to all these things... i can only hope in the future something equally exciting is going to happen..

@ rude66
"and yes, the net is cool, but dont forget that records are a lot more expensive now because of all the shipping costs."
-> ja, i know... but going to london for record shopping wasn't cheap either back then, or? and if you order records together with friends you can always split the shipping.

"and nice as it is to be able to find rare stuff, it has also driven the prices up, and a lot of the stores that are left now use ebay or even worse gemm or popsikes as  a price guide.. i remember on the old cbs forum there were some nice examples of this."
-> hm, that's true... all those pages make it much easier for dealers to set their sometimes insane prices. but then again, it's like a wave...
it always depends on what kind of style is hyped at the moment. i don't really think the rare stuff was that much cheaper in the past.
also weren't there those books for collectors (sometimes you still see guys with those books on record fairs) were lots of rare records were listed in with prices?