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First picture from the new Herschel Space Observatory
http://herschel.esac.esa.int/Images/2009/SneakPreview_M51composite.jpg
The "Whirlpool" The galaxy lies relatively nearby, about 35 million light-years away, in the constellation Canes Venatici.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8110345.stm

"positive mutation!"

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lixa-6 wrote:

First picture from the new Herschel Space Observatory
http://herschel.esac.esa.int/Images/200 … posite.jpg
The "Whirlpool" The galaxy lies relatively nearby, about 35 million light-years away, in the constellation Canes Venatici.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8110345.stm

she's a beaut.

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New Horizons NASA mission to Pluto latest news:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/newho … index.html

bit of a wait 'til it gets there in 2015!!

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPkZQa4hgxI[/youtube]

proposed sub-surface ocean exploration for Europa and Ganymede...

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sometimes you don't have to search that far...
http://www.alfordscience.info-a.googlepages.com/gpw-200702-49-NASA-ISS007-E-10807-sp.jpg/gpw-200702-49-NASA-ISS007-E-10807-sp-large;brt:42.jpg

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Dancing on the planet....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFO4sIvh3Sw[/youtube]

"Are you loving?"

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptI-LpiHRI4[/youtube]

Monkey see, monkey do.

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<3

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That is one of the greatest sun ra songs ever

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here's some weird guy on youtube that does regular videos of earth magnetosphere videos
http://www.youtube.com/user/Chris2191970

Monkey see, monkey do.

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http://www.io.com/~iareth/20050116-N00026565-DeathStarColor-COLOR-Mod.jpg

this is the herschel crater on one of saturns' moons (edit: it's called Mimas).. pretty big one, in reletation to the size of the moon.
makes it look a bit like the death star that gathered some dust.. or like kind of an eye..

another pic:

http://pds.jpl.nasa.gov/planets/images/browse/saturn/mimas.jpg

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Cat's Eye Nebula " a dying star "

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x238/woodlouse26/cenwallpaper.jpg

The Cat's Eye Nebula, one of the first planetary nebulae discovered, also has one of the most complex forms known to this kind of nebula. Eleven rings, or shells, of gas make up the Cat's Eye.

What an impressing beauty of a dying star !!!

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58m9NTxBWsY[/youtube]

Monkey see, monkey do.

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current known planet count: 373

http://planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov/

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current known planet count: 424

http://planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov/

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nice flash clip about Saturn's moon Titan on NASA/JPL site:

http://planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov/TitanFi … ash12.html

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Astronomy Picture of the Day:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

vintage future

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the known planets is a cool link casio!

i take it by "earth like" they mean planets that have an atmosphere that could sustain human life?

who's to say that some sort of other life form couldn't evolve in conditions that don't provide "carbon dioxide, water and ozone"? i've never really understood that - is there something fundamentally wrong with my question? (i don't know shit about chemistry and biology big_smile)

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jacderida wrote:

the known planets is a cool link casio!

i take it by "earth like" they mean planets that have an atmosphere that could sustain human life?

who's to say that some sort of other life form couldn't evolve in conditions that don't provide "carbon dioxide, water and ozone"? i've never really understood that - is there something fundamentally wrong with my question? (i don't know shit about chemistry and biology big_smile)

it's basically to do with the properties of water that other substances don't posess and that all known life-forms rely on. some people think silicon-based life might be possible but no-one really knows yet. I copy & pasted this from a website that explains it better than I'm capable of remembering from my own studies! (years ago now)

"The answer involves the need for a solvent to sustain life, if for no other reason than to act as a transport mechanism for fuel (i.e., to carry an energy source throughout the organism, and to help dispose of waste products). There are at least five desirable characteristics of such a solvent, for the purpose of supporting life:

   1. It should maintain a liquid state over a wide range of temperatures. That is, the spread between its freezing and its boiling points should be as great as possible. (Water, as you know, remains liquid over a 100-degree C range. That's among the widest liquid-state ranges of known sovents, which seems ideal for the purpose stated.)

   2. It should be rather polar. A molecule with a "positive" and a "negative" side can form bonds more easily than an electrically symmetrical one. (Water is indeed quite highly polar.)

   3. It should have high surface tension. The ability to glom together in drops, to climb plant stalks through capillary action, and to pool together and flow are all useful for biological processes. (Water does have high surface tension, as you can easily observe any time it is raining.)

   4. It should be less dense in the solid than in the liquid state. An ocean that freezes from the bottom up will likely kill all life that may have emerged within it. (Water ice floats on top of liquid water, permitting life to flourish below frozen lakes.)

   5. It, or its building materials, should be readily available. (Water is made from hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the Universe, and oxygen is right up there among the top ten.) "

you need ozone to prevent radiation from the parent star killing everything before it starts, and carbon dioxide and oxygen go hand-in-hand so plant and animal life sustain each other (we breathe out Carbon Dioxide, they breathe out Oxygen, and same the other way round: we breathe in Oxygen and they breathe in Carbon Dioxide. also why cutting down all the rainforests is a bad idea, they basically manufacture our air supply)

sorry I can't give a better answer as my area was astrophysics, never was much of a chemist or biologist myself either!! (astrobiology now exists as an official field of science by the way!)

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eer.....hydrothremal vents exist in the deep sea, blasting out super heated water loaded with chemicals...supporting sulphur based life forms(as opposed to carbon based, like us deriving our energy from sunlight). These are also believed to exist on Jupiter's moon Europa..

http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys235/no_moon/smoker.gif


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrothermal_vent

{edit} aah...ur talkin about condition totally removed to earth...well, i think life will always find away

Let's get Dumb

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DumbBot wrote:

aah...ur talkin about condition totally removed to earth...well, i think life will always find away

it still depends on water to live - the difference is is it doesn't require sunlight (which is pretty insane in its own right!). our bodies are made of carbon but we need water to transport materials around our bodies. life found in deep sea vents gets its oxygen through the water still, just gets its sunlight equivalent through sulphur.

but I agree, I think life is most likely a common phenomenon in the universe (the astronomical odds involved make it unlikely to have only occurred here). Intelligent life (not sure that humans qualify for that tbh) may well be the thing that's rare.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi5A1M3hw_c[/youtube]

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1TwVLmOhiU[/youtube]

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cheers for the info, interesting stuff!

do you work in astronomy then?

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jacderida wrote:

cheers for the info, interesting stuff!

do you work in astronomy then?

no but did a degree in it when I was younger... music always my first love.