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In Holland they cost around e900 - e1100 now.
jupiter 4 went up allot in price the last 3 years, before it was around e700.
Is it possible to find one in Brasil?
There's a guy selling one. That's the first time I see one for sale here. He's asking e2250.
That's the problem here. In case you didn't know, Brasil is the richest country in the world. Everything here costs a lot more than everywhere else. That's because we are very rich and can afford to spend these absurd ammounts of money in goods.
I'm always looking for something here, but it's very rare to come across somebody selling. Very difficult.
Just once in my whole life I saw somebody selling a TR-909 here and it was like a few months ago. The guy wanted something like e3000. Crazy. TR-707s are not that rare. I've seen maybe 3 or 4 for sale, but then again, people ask astronomical prices. e600 for a 707, can you believe that?
Miraveilles, why don't you buy from American Ebay or wherever and get it shipped? I've bought synths from the US and Singapore and had them shipped to the UK with no problems at all so far (touch wood). You can get separate insurance from a specialist shipping insurer for it in case anything goes wrong and then still get it marked as low value to avoid paying duties and I'm sure it wouldn't be too expensive with Fedex etc. I used USPS from America and it was pretty good, went from them to Parcel Force in the UK. 2250 is probably too much for a jupiter 4. Having said that I reckon that will be the standard price in a few years time...
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T In case you didn't know, Brasil is the richest country in the world. Everything here costs a lot more than everywhere else. That's because we are very rich and can afford to spend these absurd ammounts of money in goods.
Lol, you must be joking! Or do you mean richest country in the third world?
Miraveilles, why don't you buy from American Ebay or wherever and get it shipped? I've bought synths from the US and Singapore and had them shipped to the UK with no problems at all so far (touch wood). You can get separate insurance from a specialist shipping insurer for it in case anything goes wrong and then still get it marked as low value to avoid paying duties and I'm sure it wouldn't be too expensive with Fedex etc. I used USPS from America and it was pretty good, went from them to Parcel Force in the UK. 2250 is probably too much for a jupiter 4. Having said that I reckon that will be the standard price in a few years time...
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Few people will actually ship to south america, postal services don't always offer insurance for packages sent south of the US, in my experience.
Well it seems USPS ships to Brazil as does Fedex. If you get separate insurance through a specialist like this company: www.pafinsurance.com you can still get the seller to the mark the package as a gift and worth 20 bucks. No worries about USPS's insurance. With 707's going for 600 euros it would probably worth trying it with that as a test run...
miravalles wrote:T In case you didn't know, Brasil is the richest country in the world. Everything here costs a lot more than everywhere else. That's because we are very rich and can afford to spend these absurd ammounts of money in goods.
Lol, you must be joking! Or do you mean richest country in the third world?
I'm not joking, it's just a paradox. Of course we aren't that rich, but we still have to spend a lot of money in goods. A lot more than americans or europeans. Here everything costs at least twice the price. OK, not everything, maybe tomatoes and apples are cheaper here, but technology goods are a lot more expensive. Cars too. Very expensive.
It's hard enough to get Americans to ship anywhere outside of the States now. People used to be way more willing to ship internationally or at least to Canada.
I think there's two reasons.
Ebay and Paypal is heavily encouraging sellers to sell within the country they live in now to try and diminish the hassles of international transactions.
But I think the biggest reason is that if you live in the States USPS and UPS will pick up any package shipped to the States from your house for free. To ship internationally you have to get off your lazy ass and go to the post office.
Should I buy a Soundcraft EFX-12?
So far, I always used my old Bell MDA 400 mixer from the 70s, it's a Powermixer that I bought about 12 years ago when I started to play in a band with some friends. It has 8 channels, it's very heavy and takes up much space, it has two send channels of which one uses an internal digital delay by default. But it works fine and reliably and as far as I can judge, it's not noisy.
But now I'm thinking about getting a new one, and I found the Soundcraft EFX-12. It has 12 channels and 2 additional stereo channels, that's very cool and one of the main reasons why I want to upgrade, it has 4-band eq (or could also be 3-band with parametric mids, just looking at the picture right now), it has MUTE buttons (which I haven't on my old one - this is also one of the main reasons), it also has two send channels of which one uses an internal multi-FX processor by default, but this of course offers a bit more variety than the delay in my Bell mixer 
and it takes up about the same amount of space as my old one.
It's 365 EUR and it's also available without the FX unit for 298 EUR. The features are clearly better overall, but I can't judge the reliability and the noisiness. I also don't know if the FX unit is good (it's made by Lexicon who seem to have a good reputation), and of course I might just get the version without FX and then maybe buy a separate FX unit for, I don't know, maybe 100 or 150 EUR.
What do you think? Would you even recommend getting a mixer in that price range? Can I expect the same (or even better) sound quality compared to my Bell? Btw, I'm using a Phase 26 USB soundcard for recording at the moment, might it be better to buy a mixer with integrated USB audio interface instead?
I wish I had the money for this. Up locally right now. He started at 900 about a week and a half ago.
http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sel … Z213071421
Ah well, can't have everything.
Mine cost 700 dollars new back in the days when the pound wasn't so shite! Good times. 
He keeps bouncing the price up and down. It's up to 875 again. Have seen it as low as 590.
How much should i pay for Yamaha CS-5 in good condtion?
about 400-500% USD depending on the condition I'd say
That's a lot for such a simple synth, i thought they're cheaper.
Is it possible to trigger cs-5 via sh 101 sequencer?
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TONY COPS wrote:about 400-500% USD depending on the condition I'd say
That's a lot for such a simple synth, i thought they're cheaper.
Is it possible to trigger cs-5 via sh 101 sequencer?
Well you can sometimes find them for less if you're patient, but that's the rage for the normal asking price.
You can trigger the Cs-5 with the gate out of the SH-101 if you use the Cs-5's ext. audio in, which can be used the trigger the synth too. The Cs-5 is Hz/V, so you can't play the Cs-5 with the SH-101.
inkel mx-995 mixer any good?
Yamaha DX21 for 130€ - way too much? And if I'd be looking for one, should I save the money for DX7 instead?
Korg DSS-1 - any experiences on this?
130 is not such a bad deal imo. Despite it is only 4 ops instead of the 6 on the DX7 I believe the DX21 is nicer to have, with it's analog chorus and it's ability to layer sounds.
As for the Korg DSS-1. I only have experience with the DW8000 which I really like a lot, so if the price for the DSS-1 is right I'd definitly considder it cause it's supposed to be even nicer.
Thanks for the answer Brian!
Really considering to slowly build up the hardware side of making music and thought those would match my needs at the moment. At least it would be nice to have something to get your hands on.
DX21 probably will go a lot cheaper around the net but if 130€ doesn't sound like a total ripoff, I might consider. And I really like the sounds!
DSS-1 is going around 60€ at the moment - according to seller, the floppy drive has some difficulties loading. Sure this wouldn't be a big problem?
When it comes to low budget, there's also Yamaha PS-35 for around 20€ - will I get anything out of that?
The floppy drive not loading actually is big a problem, cause on start up you need it to boot the operating system . You can get a replacement drive, they'll probably cost you something like 50 or 75 euro. There's a resource site with links and everything:
http://glenstegner.com/dss1/home.html
So I reckon all in all the DSS1 could end up costing you 125 or 150 euro. Still quite decent.
As for the DX21, let me put it like this: it is the maximum acceptable price. I don't know the Finnish market but you can definitely find it cheaper on the net. But that's excluding transport (even if you'd take the bus you'd have to pay for it ) and they often have a missing slider cap or a push button that's not working well. So it kinda depends on the location and state. Maybe you can get the seller to drop the price a bit. Often they are happy to knock of 20 euro and be done with it.
I don't know the PS-35. It is a keyboard, so probably nothing exciting.
The floppy drive not loading actually is big a problem, cause on start up you need it to boot the operating system . You can get a replacement drive, they'll probably cost you something like 50 or 75 euro. There's a resource site with links and everything:
Some useful info there!
So the seller states that the floppy drive fails only at times and otherwise there's no problem using the synth, but I have my doubts if I'll have to kick it while every start up. For 60€ it might be a nice piece of equipment to mess around with, but since it sounds like the replacement of the drive would be essential, I guess another possibility is to search for a fully functional one.. Will have to gather some more information on that. Don't want to bite off more than I can chew as for my first proper synth.
Finland is THE place when it comes to expensive transport costs, so what I did was sending a mail to the seller of DX21 asking if he could include the shipping in the price he's asking for the synth alone. I'd be willing to pay the 120€-130€ in that case.
I'm going to buy some exciting records for the price of PS-35 though!
I'd definitely go for the DSS 1 at 60 euros. Its a really good price imo. They're pretty monster machines.
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