Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

Hello,

I organised the event on Thursday. 

Thanks to all who came out and made it a great night.  Thanks also to those who bought records, it was an idea to offer a something special to people who made the effort to leave the house, and also as a way of generating some cash to pay the band etc.  You'll notice i kept a very low door fee considering the line-up.   I’m glad you are enjoying it, 3 winners on there for sure.

To answer some questions and comments:

This 7" was cut and pressed at Record Industry in Holland. 

It was a joint production between the event organiser, artist and the label.  The covers were hand sprayed by the Minimal Wave artistic director herself just 1 hour before the doors opened. 

A small number of copies are available. If you live in Amsterdam i can sell you one direct, if not then Minimal Wave will have some for sale when Veronica returns from her European travels.  Rush Hour might have a few, and maybe some other Dutch stores.   

YES! Das Ding WAS super!  It was a pleasure to host him and i was really pleased with the audience response.  The guys in the band had a fun time and it’s been a total pleasure working with Das Ding on this event.

Ok (deep breath), a few of you seem somewhat confused that you were going to be attending some kind of  elitist spotters convention.  If you’d have done your research (I thought you’d have been good at that) you’d have seen that it was actually special edition of PopWave301.  I put POP in the name to dispel it being too closed and specialist….and it works. People dance on obscure stuff next to better known things  - records are not dismissed for not being rare or unknown.  You will as likely hear Shoc Corridor as you will the Cure or Cocteau.   So, If you want to direct geek-beef at anybody regarding the music you heard,  then you can do it to me, please.  I booked Veronica Vasicka as DJ for the night, and I also briefed her that at the beginning we’d play some wave etc (quite diverse and stuff that the band like) to set the vibe. Then after she should come on and play any music she felt like.  I also emphasised she did not HAVE to play Minimal Wave.  A lot of people really loved it, the dancefloor was testament to that!

What a nice welcome to Europe this must be if Veronica is reading all this here.  Of course she plays it careful at such an event (being ADE etc), but still there was no questioning how great the tunes were.  Have you been to NYC lately?  Do you know what’s working on dancefloors there right now?  I don’t know why the fact IF or whoever was playing tracks years ago has anything to do with a selection of tracks from a DJ coming from a totally different angle.  I care about taste and it’s obvious from her label she has a heap of that,  she certainly expressed that in her set. 

I am about the most un-hip person in this city (I simply do sporadic events when I feel like it) and I resent the comments here that imply some kind of contrived reasons  for booking Minimal Wave.  It’s are actually quite offensive to me.   You should have asked me for a refund, I'd have enjoyed telling you where you could stick that along your nasty opinions and thermos flask.  New people come into scenes all the times, and boring old dinasours die.  Fact of life.  Get over it and maybe stop going out / posting on forums as you look like bitter old farts with nothing better to do or say.   

I won't be replying on this as i'm not into the forum chatting thing at all. But after being alerted to this thread by a friend, I felt  should comment. 

Cheers then
morthee@gmail.com

52 (edited by --/~~~~ 2010-10-24 17:01:07)

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

Yes I have to agree with molepup here. The dj before das ding was playing some mighty fine minimal tunes but i didnt see people particularly paying attention to that either.

At nullzeit i'm playing tons of obscure gemms to a practically empty room. previous time together with mr. Hommage, this time together with mr. Walhalla. Also not two of the least respected people around. I wonder if people are only interested in obscure minimal wave gemms when it comes from Veronica? I sure get the impression when reading this thread.
Veronica however, has had similar experiences so indeed have her set adapted to what she found worked well with her audience in NYC. I guess she did not realise over here in europe she might be the exception to the rule.

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

ok guyz i will retract my macho opinion
well it wasn't really a opinion, i've also heard she's really nice.. no "air" and stuff..
so go veronica go smile

Vlam Aan

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

QoB, stuttgart schwarz, eh? smile

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUix1iTiZ9o[/youtube]

lärm macht spass!

55 (edited by Scarface 2010-10-24 20:26:20)

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

Wasn't there so can't really judge but from what I'm reading here I think indeed there's a lot of highly danceable (obscure) minimal synth tracks (also a lot is just to listen) to choose from (even or especially from the Minimal Wave-catalogue). 
If I was going to a set by the Minimal Wave labelboss I would expect to hear some of that. So I can understand that someone is disappointed if it turns out to be a set of the well known hits. You want to be another copycat or make a difference and represent your label?

"Are you loving?"

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

Come on guys.. I-F (just to name one) is also playing Donna Summer and Michael Jackson. You don't hear anyone about it. When he played thos tunes on the IFM, people cheered. It opens up the crowd which is making possible that people who are not really into the music have a good night also and will come back again. This is simply how things work, not any stress about it. You could see it as a way of education for the less purist (and difficult) visitors.

Of course, in an ideal world 100% of the crowd would come to a party only for music and beers. However in real live it only turns out to be 25%. Live with it and please do not ever burn someone else because of his or her musical choice. We are all humans and we all have emotions but judging someone like this is really childish and doesn't get things to a higher level in the future. For example, if we don't attract some nice girls to our parties (which most of the time do not really care about the music but really contribute to the overall atmosphere on the night) our scenes would be dead in a bit. It's not about us musicgeeks or ego's, it's about getting the word of the music spread and this blablabla doesn't get it better.

57 (edited by Scarface 2010-10-24 21:55:43)

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

Well, I understand your partyreasons but then you must also understand our "musicgeek"-reasons. But I guess they are too "minimal" for real life then. That's too bad... Back to my room again. wink

edit: never mind.

"Are you loving?"

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

@ molepup
thanks for your comment + check your mail!

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Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

@ deutschmark
ja, the party series is named after this track. and the guy who does it was dj-ing at the odeon in stuttgart back in the days.

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Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

qob: i have to agree with you on her set, i was pretty disappointed too. i was hoping to hear some obscure stuff over a decent PA.. oh well. the 7" is really nice btw.

ET: what you describe with hex is the fate of the pioneers. it happened with electro, now with this, and im sure some future genres too..

problem with interest in minimal synth music was also that before the reissues started coming, a lot of it was really impossible to find. i grew up in the days when a lot of this was originally released and was even into that kind of music, yet i never heard a LOT of it. you try to find a cassette release 20 years later.. so it wasnt until the rereleases came (and you played a big role in that, ET) that it was slowly getting more widespread.

and it may be a hype now in our tiny little music universe, but the general public still has no clue. there the underground buzzwords are still electro and now slowly italo.. big_smile

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

some pics:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs061.snc4/34422_1511221146515_1413984328_31431851_5538088_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs021.ash2/34437_1511221346520_1413984328_31431852_393371_n.jpg

i made videos too, but still have to convert and upload them..

62 (edited by --/~~~~ 2010-10-25 14:26:41)

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

If there is a hype i have not encountered it in real life prior to this evening. This music has an incredibly devoted fanbase, for which i'm very thankful. But they are Very Rare as the music itself.

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

People seem to have always some things to complain about.. if the party is low visited then it was boring as hell.. if the party is visited well by young people it's suddenly a "hype"

come on.. I expected also some more diversity in the record choice of Veronica, but the main act was Das Ding, and they were great!

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

Queen Of Blood wrote:

@ kuczera
"so she got booked more for her looks then for her quality big_smile"
-> that's soooooo macho, marco! well maybe they also expected something else or maybe they wanted her to play that stuff, i don't know. i mean check her playlists. of course you will find the one or the other italo disco track in there, but not in such a massive way or how can i say that, i think you know what i mean.
but yeah, comments like this, show that the dj thing still somehow is dominated by men. and it seems that especially for a good looking and nicely dressed woman it is a lot harder to earn some respect than for any other dj. even if you run a label like mw and have a great taste in music. people especially men are watching you... always.

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Im completely agree, Isa. As far as i can understand Kuzcera was not even at the party, this is really not cool to say. You can do a critic on the mixing or on the tracklist (though i really dont understand the second one, as i think that a DJ is free to play whatever he/she wants..its not a challenge in playing the most unknown track, come on!!) as Isa did, but this looks like a personal attack or so.

about my experience, i was djing saturday nite in Roma with Veronica and it was amazing, people liked so much our tracklists and everybody was enjoying the party and giving a really good feedback.

65 (edited by kuczera 2010-10-26 11:55:04)

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

^^ isn't anyone on this board able to write my name right? it's kuczera.. hehe

Vlam Aan

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

lol im sorry man yr right

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

well i took it back .. all the things i said.
discussion closed, for me

Vlam Aan

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

marsman wrote:

People seem to have always some things to complain about.. if the party is low visited then it was boring as hell.. if the party is visited well by young people it's suddenly a "hype"
come on.. I expected also some more diversity in the record choice of Veronica, but the main act was Das Ding, and they were great!


i dont think its really so much complaining as just being honest. and as an artist promotor or dj, you should be able to take that. you can never pleasure everybody, and i've also had plenty of people come up and tell me they didnt like certain things we played. oh well. sometimes people here take things a little too personal which is understandable, but can kill a potentially interesting debate as well...

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLEnLLT8kIo[/youtube]

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

Nice video Rude!
BTW Veronica was really impressed by your live set on Friday.

i don't need the gear, the gear needs me 
http://www.mono-poly.nl/

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

and part 2:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYSmAQoA5zs[/youtube]

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

part 3:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVBS1hXh134[/youtube]

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

nice video's!

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

and part 4:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPD-UgNiz0c[/youtube]

75 (edited by zora 2010-10-27 16:33:22)

Re: 21/10/10 MinimalWave301 - Das Ding LIVE & Veronica Vasicka - Amsterdam

das ding was cool!  didnt know too much by them before and really enjoyed their gig.
have to admit i didnt really pay much attention to the dj before das ding, but enjoyed veronicas set. although i have to say that, yes, i also expected sth else, some more "minimal wave" stuff plus the mixing was far from good.
honestly i never got why people think a dj shouldnt just play his/ her stuff but should give the crowd sth easy to follow. i would think people come to a minimal wave night to be exposed to some minimal wave and not to sth else. if one wants to teach the crowd about "good music", why not teach >>your<< kind of music? i, at least, was keen on listening to minimal wave (or minimal synth or however you wanna name it) that night and it kinda disappointed me, too, that there was so little of it in her set.
nevertheless, it was of course up to her what she felt like playing and i really enjoyed what she played.


btw, i still have one spare copy of this 7".  it was 10 euro, so i would also give it for 10 euro plus the shipping. if anyone wants it.. let me know..

.."this world`s a bubble"..