Topic: roland jp 8000

I have a nice offer for this synth, to buy.

should I? I think is a good synth but maybe someone who already has it can give me some quick insight... I read this arpeggio problem on the forum already, but I'd like to know more. what's really bad with this synth and what's good... sound and music wise.

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disliked by some as it's associated with trance things.  but its meant to be quite nice and i've heard of it used by quite a few folk, i think kevin saunderson was using one live?

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...and Mr. De

4 (edited by computerdisco 2009-06-19 12:13:34)

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Had one for ages.. Has a very Roland sound. The Super saw is fun. Quite liked it, but eventually all the digital encoders started to wear out and it was a pain in the ass to replace them. If your getting it cheap its a good synth. Good midi All the knobs and sliders transmit too so good for editing.  The RPS Phrase patten sequencer is good fun. good VA workhorse. Can doo good basses and Pads.. The arp can be a bit sloppy. But over all i found it ok.

+++ Dont be scared honey, thats just the resonance knob +++

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The Roland JP8000 was the first synth I ever bought, back when it came out around 1998 (well that's when it came out in Ireland anyway!). I knew nothing about synths at the time and got a summer job working in 3Com putting network cards together, saved up all my money and blew it on this for what was the equivalent of 1400 Euro (we used Irish pounds back then). I had tried it in the shop a few times and as it was one of the first "virtual analogue" synths ever made there was quite a lot of excitment about it (the Clavia Nord Lead came before it though but never made it to Ireland until the Lead 2 came out some time later).

It's actually a really good synth, you can get a lot of great bass sounds out of it, the super saw waveform is great for big "wide" string sounds, practically every single parameter has its own knob on the front so no going through menus to change the sounds (except for saving, naming patches, syncing LFOs to midi clock etc). All the knobs also sent midi CC messages so it worked as a big midi controlling master keyboard too.

It does sound very digital, so its "virtual analogue" tag isn't really justified, but it does produce good digital sounds. Yes it has gotten some flak for its role in trance records, but that doesn't mean you *have* to use it for trance. The TR909 was used on a billion bad records but that doesn't mean it's a bad drum machine!

They go for about 450-ish Euro nowadays, and for that money it's a good synth. But if you're looking for analogue type sounds I'd suggest checking out something else instead.

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thanks computerdisco and skkatter, quite useful reviews, big drawback is this digital sound, I expected, wished for a better virtual analog sound. Price I've been offered is ok, less than 400 E. And as a midi master could be a nice addiction but... I fear no matter what you do you'd never get away with the trancey feeling... I don't know...

actually I'd love to buy a roland jx 10 with the pg, but it seems I cannot find one, so I was looking at available items, like the jp 8000 or the other here on the forum, this siel ex 80... guess have to wait then

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one of the best synths i've ever touched in my life. makes some amazing, deep sounds and can get freezing cold, too. you can patch in other tones to basically layer a total of 4 distinct tones over one another on the same patch with the ability to assign them to different MIDI channels. can't say enough about the super saw. use it a lot for pads and emotional shit but it's still very well-rounded.

NEAT NEAT NEAT NEAT DEEP DEEP DEEP DEEP

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do you have some samples of the synth? or something you did with it I can hear?

9 (edited by Squadra Smackos 2009-06-19 13:49:34)

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A JP8000 covers the JX10 ground pretty well...all this digital sounds stuff i don't know i don't hear the difference with a JX10 (maybe more powerfull in the stereo image and broader sound but thats because of the chorus)

All the presets http://www.synthmania.com/jp-8000.htm

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No I don't think its not "Analogue" Sounding. Seriously its a good synth to have.. I didn't make trance with it.. Its a good all-round player. It has a performance/patch system which you can split 2 sounds too. so bass and Lead. up to 8 polyphony in total. and you can set the polyphony for each part of the performance patch. You can control both Via midi and different channels or as a performance it has good keyboard splitting. So Bass arp on the bottom octave, strings on the rest of the keys of 5 or 6 poly or however you decide it to be.. And did I mention the built in EFX which are tempo syncable. If I see a rackmount version cheap I would get again.
Overall its a very respectable keyboard. and i don't think it sounds that digital at all.

+++ Dont be scared honey, thats just the resonance knob +++

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quite convincing computerdisco...

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it's a wonderful synth.  It all depends on what other shit you have and what you're trying to make obviously.

You can always re-sell.

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the jp 8080 is meant to be pretty good as well, mega rack monster and the jd800 as well.

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I have the 8080 and I love it to death but I want a different synth NOT made by roland for my next addition

15 (edited by plikestechno 2009-06-20 00:01:14)

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most complicated robot wrote:

actually I'd love to buy a roland jx 10 with the pg, but it seems I cannot find one, so I was looking at available items, like the jp 8000 or the other here on the forum, this siel ex 80... guess have to wait then

I'd sell my JX to you guys if you weren't on the other side of the world. It's got a weird build that makes me nervous. It's very heavy but wide yet thin. It bows as soon as you pick it up of the rack. That can't be good. And the road case is old and foam's coming off.

Even though I've got magic secret super polysynth coming (I'm not discussing it until it gets here in one piece), the JX still has many uses so I'd rather just keep it in my studio than worry about it breaking in two during shipping.

I am shipping two far sturdier synths this week though so after that I'll probably be "Shipped Out" and not want to send anything out for awhile.

I don't know what their European price is but 400 euro for a JP8000 wouldn't exactly make me run across the street. Maybe wait for something else. There's no Crumar Bits in Switzerland? Or old Roland Junos or MKS' or anything?

I'm not a VA fan.

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oh no, some crusty guy came round my house in the uk one night after a gig and left this keyboard in my room saying he would come back and get it. I hid it under my bed after he ate all my food from the fridge. Then my other friend  stole it off me, jeez! i might try and get it back, afterall i stole it.

"positive mutation!"

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i got mine for $250usd.  i guess i stole mine too kind of.

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plikestechno wrote:

I don't know what their European price is but 400 euro for a JP8000 wouldn't exactly make me run across the street. Maybe wait for something else. There's no Crumar Bits in Switzerland? Or old Roland Junos or MKS' or anything?

ha! finding synths in switzerland is like looking for oil... not much choice around here, and crumar, yes, would be fantastic but never ever seen them in any of the local ebay style websites... germany is easy, but very very expensive... don't know why...

I'll wait then

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Are you looking in the right place, I can't believe zwitserland didn't have any synths back in the days  I mean its a pretty developed western country with people with lots of money. You gotta look beyond ebay into local synth freak scenes etc. put adds in the local ad paper, supermarket etc.

A JP8000 is way more versitale in sounds and possibilities then a crumar Bit btw

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Oh I wasn't disputing that. Those VAs have a lot of bells and whistles on them. I guess I just kinda like going to old synths for old sounds.

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Squadra Smackos wrote:

Are you looking in the right place, I can't believe zwitserland didn't have any synths back in the days  I mean its a pretty developed western country with people with lots of money. You gotta look beyond ebay into local synth freak scenes etc. put adds in the local ad paper, supermarket etc.

A JP8000 is way more versitale in sounds and possibilities then a crumar Bit btw

yes we're looking around, even friends that spend their time looking for them, flea markets, old basements, and stuff live the same frustration. There might have been some synths back in the days, but not that many, and mostly they have been already hunted and taken... but no despair, something sometimes always comes up, it just happens rarely.

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btw, thanks for all the infos, I think I'll wait for a jx 10 anyway...

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jx10 is great. i don't understand how it "bows" or "bends" if picked up from the rack. mine doesn't. really well built quality if you ask me. sure its big and heavy, and it has some trouble with the midi stuff, but you can fix that by ordering a updated eprom from colin frasier that sorts the midistuff out.

http://www.colinfraser.com/jx10/jx.htm

haven't used the jp8000, but can surely recomend jx10!

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Look I'm not saying it looks like a friggin banana or anything. But if you have the wingspan to pick it up from the very left and very right and carry it a few feet there is some slight bowing. I'm just not up for shipping it to the other side of the world.

JX10 and PG 800 do rock with endless possibilities so the wait will be worth it. Great keyboard action too. I use it as my master MIDI keyboard. Wonderful range and response with my modular.

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hmm... i might be able to get a jx10 locally for about 450 USD (hope to get the price down a bit). problem is the pg800 will not be so easy to find for a reasonable price.