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Re: roland jp 8000

Well, you can do a lot with the JX even without the PG. The PG is for tactile control only, everything is in the JX. $450 USD is a pretty amazing price considering you wouldn't have to pay shipping and these things were like 3 grand when they first came out in the eighties. PGs are everywhere for $3-$400 US if you decide you even need one and are light so shipping will be minimal.

Work him down to what you can get it for but take it for sure.

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hey plikes, I still have a mixed opinion about the sequencer, how is it?

edit: does it work only with the cartridge?

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hmm... i might be able to get a jx10 locally for about 450 USD (hope to get the price down a bit). problem is the pg800 will not be so easy to find for a reasonable price.

If you get that MIDI chip update  from collin frasier you probably can use any MIDI controller instead of the PG, like a Behringer BCR2000

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Re: roland jp 8000

the MIDI update I guess is needed anyway or?

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most complicated robot wrote:

the MIDI update I guess is needed anyway or?

no, unless you want to edit the parametes with sysex. dumping your sounds to your computer can be a pain in the arse too without the update. basic midi functions work nicely without any update.

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Depends on how you work, I got the PG800 and don't do much with MIDI so i don't really need it. But its very cheap only 15 uk pounds thats cool, it probably will be worth the trouble.

What about the JX8P? Its the same synth, well only half of a JX10 (inside the JX10 = 2 JX8P boards) but it has more advanced MIDI but then again if you want those big complex JX10 sounds you won't get them from that one.

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Re: roland jp 8000

What about that other early VA's like Korg Prophecy, Yamaha AN1x and the more modern Alesion ION.
Aren't those a better choise?

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Squadra Smackos wrote:

Depends on how you work, I got the PG800 and don't do much with MIDI so i don't really need it. But its very cheap only 15 uk pounds thats cool, it probably will be worth the trouble.

What about the JX8P? Its the same synth, well only half of a JX10 (inside the JX10 = 2 JX8P boards) but it has more advanced MIDI but then again if you want those big complex JX10 sounds you won't get them from that one.

I though a lot about the jx 8p, it's also much cheaper, but the fact that there is no sequencer and no arpeggio in it, putted the thought aside, it also has a fatter sound though, thing is I found the jx 10 a much more complete synth and I like the idea... also, the splitting keyboard that the jx 8p cannot do... and the thing we possibly found one just around the corner, and not in south korea makes it more appetible.

And yes, I'm looking forward for 12 voices

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i have a jx8p wich can be reached with my BCF2000 very well and even in realtime. Cubase SX is able to record and replay the sysexstrings in realtime without dropouts (it works decent even with logic on an ATARI ste). I think it will work for the jx10 also without a midi kit. just get your BCF/BCR to learn mode and send the parameters. the good thing about using one of those behringers is, that they can be used as a midi merger, so you are able to tweak the sound while you sequenzing the synth. once you plug the original programmer in, you can

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let's see if he accepts my offer for the jx10

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Ow the JX10 has no arpegiator btw, its got chase play which is a kind of weird echo-like effect for playing the keyboard good for loose basslines. The Sequencer is pretty simple its more like a realtime recorder not syncable I think but good for ambient stuff probably

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Re: roland jp 8000

Squadra Smackos wrote:

chase play

curious about that

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Its kind of weird and not really that usefull, its no wonder we didn't see it appearing in other synths (that I know of)

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chase play is a delay type of effect between the the upper and lower tone. U-L-U-L ect- with some options, but not that useful. for arpeggiating needs, i use abletons midi-arpeggiator with the jx.

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most complicated robot wrote:

hey plikes, I still have a mixed opinion about the sequencer, how is it?

edit: does it work only with the cartridge?

I've never used it's sequencer. Have just triggered it with other things but if you want to use it you do need a cartridge.

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Squadra Smackos wrote:

Ow the JX10 has no arpegiator btw, its got chase play which is a kind of weird echo-like effect for playing the keyboard good for loose basslines. The Sequencer is pretty simple its more like a realtime recorder not syncable I think but good for ambient stuff probably

ah! I read it on vintage synth etc... that the jx10 has an arpeggiator, so I was pretty trusty. Thanks for the clarification, and now for the sequencer, I though it was a simple one but I imagined I could do at least easy sequences and then trigger them from the 707, but if you say it is not syncable... that makes me even more dubious... so it's really only like 2 jx 8p together and not really well implemented as I thought...

no, you're right, I read it wrong...

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the chase play thing on the jx10 would be much more useful if it were midi-syncable, which it isn't.  I've got one collecting dust in my bedroom now - nice synth, but not for me i don't think

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The JX10 is really good for filmic synth strings and deep stuff Angelo Badelamenti Twin peaks

and the keyboard plays really nice and is big

You can sync the sequencer of the very first JX the Roland JX3P to Roland trigger, thats a polyphonic step sequencer that works really well...the sound of a JX3P is more thinner and plasticy or something and half of a JX10 (as a JX10 is double everything)

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the chase play thing on the jx10 would be much more useful if it were midi-syncable, which it isn't.  I've got one collecting dust in my bedroom now - nice synth, but not for me i don't think

You wanna sell it?

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i do actually want to sell or trade it- been meaning to do that, but I'm on the west coast of the US, so it might be a little much to ship

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THere's a funny thread about a guy trying to find a decent JP8000 here.

http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewt … mp;t=49433

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