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@schmoltz: yeah its not like russia has any history whatsoever of being the aggressor


deutschmark wrote:

yes  we will eat your children. Western media hype on the Evil Empire is hilarious to me...

I personally am not scared of the russian military one bit. their equipment is outdated.

@Squadra : now your talkin my language. they can definitely be fought into a stalemate by a lesser opponet just like in chechnya and afghanistan. once other powers start funneling some modern ground weapons to the georgians(if its not happened already) you will see russia have a real problem on its hands

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statiq wrote:

According to Putin:
South Ossetia independence... OK
Kosovo independence... Not OK
Chechenia independence... Not OK

Double standards ?

It's not independence for South Ossetia, it's them being absorbed into Russia as an "autonomous region" (which sounds a lot like the Tibet/China status quo)
At least that's how I understand it.

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for now it looks like things might chill a bit. I saw somewhere that Russian "peacekeepers" will be deployed to georgia and NATO is also talking about sending peacekeepers. Yeah, I don't see any problems on the horizon there.

In a way maybe its a trade between Russia and US for something already done or will be done later.
Like, "O.K. you can take back georgia but give us (x) in return."

but being that the West has spent billions on the pipeline and considering the tensious relations between the West and Russia, I personally find that a little tough to believe.

Who really knows?

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Ah when you get grumpy at Russians you just have to watch this

http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2008/08 … dioru.html

30 (edited by jonny five 2008-08-13 12:32:55)

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so they didn't really pull their troops out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7558399.stm


+ a bit more on 'pipeline politics': http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7557049.stm

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http://users.skynet.be/fa018426/Georgia.jpg

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LO fuckin' L! lol

Do it your way, because everyone else is just weird.

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so I guess that means everything on tv and news is being done on a hollywood backlot right?

never underestimate the stupidity of the average person

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Am tellin' ya it's gonna kick off!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7559252.stm

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I'm with you rimini because the talk is among the average american that we arent gonna stand for russian aggression against our allies that were there for us in IRAQ.

look for a heavy handed material support to Georgia within, well, NOW!

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Squadra Smackos wrote:

Ah when you get grumpy at Russians you just have to watch this

http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2008/08 … dioru.html

I think this guy maybe in a nuclear bunker!

37 (edited by jonny five 2008-08-14 17:01:56)

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another perspective here, quite a good article, it certainly is a complex issue as Tottieheid stated further up the page: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree … ia.georgia

38 (edited by biotek 2008-08-14 18:19:51)

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it paints georgia as the initial aggressor although there isn't proof of this nor is there any that civilians have been murdered according to a human rights organization on site in georgia. that's what i read from news.bbc.co.uk anyway..

edit: i think the article claimed no evidence of genocide or ethnic cleansing by some human rights organization to be more precise

Monkey see, monkey do.

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i understood that georgia did start large scale aggressions by bombing south ossetia, so to a certain extent it is true. what went before in order to provoke these bombings though is a little less clear to me.

40 (edited by Mitel' 2008-08-18 18:48:59)

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yes

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probably a good point in there somewhere

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hah..Alex Jones is saying USA (the new world order) sneak attacked Rus through georgia...and Rus are the good guys. this guy is incredible

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lol

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WW3 next? coindicentally in my last game of DEFCON the Russians 'won'.

it seems the Russian leaders have gone insane, saying shit like they don't care if they become isolated from the world and that the Georgian war was orchestrated by the USA in order to get McCain elected. wtf? sounds like they have a deathwish. they've had a few vodkas too many imo.

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since when has russia and usa relations made any sense.

Monkey see, monkey do.

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cold war is cool. very good for inspiration (east berlin wall, spy, crisis, red phone, Dr. Strangelove etc.).

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New David Michael Cross record coming?