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I puke at those who embrace it and come up with wanky quotes.

No but you can be a wanker, jump around and mix tracks just by shaking the "thing"....

I don't know... Is it just me or is the art dj'ing slowly being killed by all sorts of efx machines and weird contraptions... I get the idea of having loop machines but it's gone too far now. People seem to forget that two SL1200'reds and a simple mixer is enough to rock a floor of hundreds if not thousands...  I have much more respect for dj's that can keep a party going with a simple setup, and they tend to be better dj's because they rely on the basic skills of the trade. In essence, know your records, know your limits and feel and controle the floor. That is what dj's have done since the dawn of the 1200.

yeah, I would have to hold one in my hands and toy with it to see wether or not it worked or was a complete piece of shit!

but to become legendary it would definitely have to open bottles or double as a weapon of some sort.(taser or knife)

everyone drooled over suckato scratch too and I wont touch it

I agree with you James that it doesn't mean this is a shit piece of gear but rather that it attracts shit around it. There is no subsititute for knowing your records well, mp3's and digital make it harder to know a track well since they don't have the physical form.

I've been noticing that the older the track (funk/disco/good old electro) the more shitty effects and dumb sample loops those djs throw on it. They leave their contemporary garbage virgin-clean and effect free.

Ugh, yeah, everything is about the snarerush nowadays, only its been reinterpreted with effects. Like bitcrush 4/8/16/32

All I can say in relation to knowing your records well is that to me, from what I've seen from the old school guys (I can only speak of here in Chicago since I haven't really spent any time living anywhere else) is yeah, it was crucial for DJs to know their tracks, mix on the breaks, and even have doubles! Something new guys don't do anymore. I remember seeing their crates at parties back in the day, doubles for every record (to extend the breaks or do on-the-fly edits), and the tops of the record sleeves just worn and picked to shit. The competition was TOUGH here so if you wanted to be taken seriously you had to be REALLY GOOD and even scratch, and that went for the House DJs too, not just Hip-Hop jocks.

I'm just sayin'.

This ain't the time to be a Luddite, but I do admit that the Tonium takes the biscuit...
Traktor's served me very well over the last 8 years, thank you very much!

i don't think its the technology itself that makes it harder to 'know' your music collection as well, it has something to do with it, just not everything.  it's more due to the fact that there's sooo much music to be had and it can be listened to all day everyday, everywhere - at home, on the bus, in the library, grocery store etc. etc.  instead listening to one track or one album over and over, people just skim over tons of material.  what the internet is to the novel

oh man this thing is pretty wack IMO..

quote from the side:

"Pacemaker is the first product in the world that truly brings DJing to the masses and right into the hands of the next DJ generation!"

to the masses.. pfffff... there are already enough people playing crappy music .. and anyway if everyone becomes a dj who will go to the partys and dance?
but seriously, who would want to use something like this, also regarding the functionality.. i imagine it would pretty much suck when you play an 2h set or something and for the whole time you just stand there with this little thing in your hand, pushing buttons.. and then accesing crucial functions like eq/cross-/linefaders via some menus or whatever .. horrible.. you just need that stuff before you to touch and work with. but oh i forgot if you use something like this you probably play shitty minimal or whatever and just use the autobeatmatch/mix etc.  ..  so no worrys

of course thats only my opinion and taste, maybe some will like it.. but i think it's a fail. completely redundant..
if you want to play digital files just burn a fucking cd.. or use serato or whatever

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for ADVANCES in technology...but just because it's new doesn't mean its better.